Will Jacob Zuma be the next president?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

They should send Zuma and Mugabe to some remote island (just the two of them) and let them practice their politics there.

I just returned from a four week holiday in South Africa, my third I might add in less than two years. The thing is, I want to move home, home to my beautiful South Africa, but I am not sure exactly how. The country is totally divided. Half my friends whom have moved back in last couple of years are loving it and the other half live in constant fear of their lives and as parents almost half feel guilty that they are bringing their kids up in fear. Ever the pessimist I have to put all my plans on hold once again. On hold not because of anything else except if Zuma and his machine gun win the next election. The country is doomed to a hop a skip and a jump in a parade- A parade in which Mogabe plays the pied piper- Zuma and the south African population on his tailcoats.

What a shame and what an absolute waste that will be. All the hard work of Mbeki and his allies is being threatened almost overnight. We are all up for change, it was inevitable, change over time was what Inkhata were shouting I the 80s it was a good principal, but look at our economy, I just bought rands for 14. It makes a mockery of what my and your fathers set out to do. They worked hard to build and maintain an economic giant and that is what I also want to help do, but with countries next door pulling us down and a potential new leader threatening in the wings to bring us down. What next?

Why are we not doing more in the UK to aid other potential candidates? I am all for the Cape Town mayor Helen Zille, educated, clever and only the peoples realistic needs at heart. But alas now its no more about who would truly work for South Africa, its all about colour and corruption. I must admit that the who`s scratching who`s back in polotics in South Africa is becoming very tiresome. Surely the population at large should realise that South Africa is on the verge of an extremely vulnerable situation. Not just to the deterement of every white SouthAfrican but also to the 98% of black people who will be running like refugees in the name of freedom. The reality is a sad fact that everyone will be trying their utmost to flee the county and where are these people going to go? The UK is closing its doors, new Zealand has said a definite no to Africans and Australia`s highly skilled policy is a no go area for ninety something percent of the African population. So the only result is turmoil.

We as a black people we do ,yes need a black president but who possess that leadership quality after Dr Nelson Mandela?.Zuma got that?, i personally don't think so.Zuma yes got all the leadership quality for been a king in KZN,but not for political leadership and he know nothing about the economy, so how he could be the next president.The point is lined president need to possess the political and economical leadership.Zuma possess non.
but say No to woman president.

hahahahahahahahahahaha... zuma you cause too much trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless Zuma goes to jail, nobody will be able to stop him. It is time to face reality for all South Africans, and those of European extraction shouldnt say they didnt see it coming when he gets the job in 2009. In addition, high interest rates, slow growth, mad real estate prices, credit crunch etc all contribute to the majority of voters to follow Zuma, and reject any other candidate that would represent continuation of the present "Coconut" system (BEE, black consumerism etc). At the moment, we have about 4 to 5 million black middle class coming close to the white population in size and in purchasing power. For the whites, this buffer has so far been a fantastic protection against african political radicalism. It is a risky strategy though as it can only work if more and more people join the 'buffer', and any economic crisis will see that scenario falter in the coming years. An economic apartheid may be morally better than a race apartheid, but for too many it makes no difference whatsoever...

A lot of affluent whites are aiming at selling at the peak in 2010. To be on the safe side, i would tell them to get prepared a little earlier. Having said that, Zuma is not a little Mugabe, and South African whites will be able to enjoy a good lifestyle for quite a while (power of money is very very resilient to changes in politics). Taxes and redistribution should go up, but this is long overdue anyway in this country of capitalistic individualism.

Should we however plan long term for our children...? hmmm that would be asking too much... It is certainly safer to equip them with a good education and a few thousand Euros (i would have said US Dollars not so long ago) and let them sail away...

So is it time to pack up and go then? No rush really. After all it depends how much you have to take along with you... In March 2006 the Rand took a knock after exchange control has been relaxed and a LOT of Rands has flown away already. So, if you haven't done it yet, either you're a fool or it doesn't mean much to you. After all, we have a winning Boks team, and lots of sunshine....

I think the ANC will make him their leader next week and then they should immediately replace Mbeki.

Mbeki hates white people (for that matter all non-Xhosas), wants land seizures and is just as corrupt as Mugabe. He blatantly ignores crime and HIV AIDS and wants to go the Zimbabwean way. Zuma might be a traditional ANC man which holds the ideals they struggled for as written in the Freedom Charter. That is why he is so desperate to get Zuma out of the way. All these court cases might be sucked from his thumb and that is why he can't find him guilty. He's even managed to put the fear of Zuma into the west. Zuma is for one a Zulu, probably the proudest people in Africa and in my opinion they have far better relations with other nations. Kwa-Zulu Natal is known for it zero-tolerance approach and Durban is one of the few cities that is really competing, improving and marketing itself.

If Zuma is the one he might just tackle crime, instead of pretending it doesn't exist. He might even help us rediscover the dream of the rainbow. Mbeki is leading this country nowhere but down and the other options aren't that great either.

If not, at least we might all get the assylum in the west we should already qualify for anyway and we can leave Africa to murder and destroy itself.

What if the Zuma thing could split the ANC or at least their alliances? Say one half goes with Mbeki/Another and the other half with Zuma. That means their 70% vote is split in half, 35% each. That would bring a third party into play like in the Western Cape and suddenly you have a true democracy....wishful thinking I know....

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Jacob Zuma's "mshiniwam" is hate speech. He is calling on the people to bring him a machine gun. This revolutionary song is just as outdated as the other MK song, Hamba Kahle, Mkhonto, in which the words "kill the boers" are sung at MK funerals.

The victims of structural violence have no knowledge of the Equality Court and the human rights they are entitled to. Security, proper housing, good education, a career, these are just second economy (pipe) dreams in the Third World.

Instead, hate speech is propagated from public stages by a well-funded "presidential candidate", in his strategic attempt to become the leader of the National Democratic Revolution.

Thus, the ANC is caught up in a classic Catch 22 scenario, with little space to manoeuvre.

If Zuma goes to jail, they are in trouble. If his lawyers can bail him out, we should forget about a female state president for the next 10 years, or more.

I would just like to know which wife will become Mrs. President?!?! ANd isn't it rather deranged that its illegal to commit adultery and yet our very own president is doing it... WITH 4 WIVES! I think its insane to ellect someone with such a bad reputation and someone who has done dirty deals under the table, and even charged of rape, ever EVER rule this country, its absurd!

I used to shudder at the thought of Zuma becoming president, can you imagine, instead of condoms he would be promoting showers as HIV prevention, and not to mention the fraud and corruption charges against him, After the ANC conference however i followed what many analysts are saying adn they might have a point. Thabo mbeki is an educated man with many of his won ideologies that he pushes without consultation. This has been an argument against his style of leadership. Zuma however is uneducated and also relies a lot on his advisors, this is probably better, from his revent speeches it seems either he knows what to say or his policies are genuinely better, he is not silent on the zim issue, he may consider the death penalty to bring crime under control and best of all when he was grilled by other ministers on corruption he put to them the question that who is the richest in the room and though i dont know who it was it emerged that he was the poorest. Just food for thought

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you zimbabwens are stupid

Originally Posted by Zimbabwean

I am a black Zimbabwean living in SA, we have seen how it happens, how a country falls to its knees and the signs are already showing in South Africa, in sequence:

1. Corrupt ministers
2. Nepotism among ruling members
3. White people leave the country in huge numbers
3. Skilled people leave in numbers as well (black and white)
4. Govt departments full of corruption (compare home affairs service 14 years ago?)
5. Land invasions
6. Inflation starts kreeping up (compare the price of milk 2 years ago, inflation is not 6%)
7. Concurrent strikes, etc etc etc....

List goes on and on, for all you naive South Africans now is the time for you to wake up before its too late.

Just some advice from someone who's been there.